Basically, O'Reilly's argument for the existence of God is that nature/the universe is complex, therefore something must have created it. In other words, complexity requires a designer. Dawkins' only response to this was that science is “working on it.”
What he neglected to point out was that even if science had no idea of how to explain the complexity, there is still no particular reason to believe in God. If complexity requires a creator, then wouldn't that creator also be complex thus require a creator himself? The ultimate question is: why does anything exist? Introducing God into the question serves no explanatory purpose.
I was disappointed that Dawkins failed to rebut O'Reilly's argument. He hurt atheism's intellectual credibility. Although, this aired on Foxnews, so it doesn't really matter that much.
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The fact that there is life is reason to believe in god, our solar system is specifically, precisesly geared to cultivate life on earth. Things arent randomly, functionlessly scattered. There is reason and purpose, and the spirit(s) behind it are evermore subtle.
The existence and evolution of life can be scientifically explained.
Now you say our environment is so precisely right for us that someone had to make it that way? What if the environment were different from what it is? Perhaps different beings would be saying the same thing you are saying. You're like the number 3 marveling at how perfectly numbers 1 and 2 add up.
You have it backwards. We are the products of our environment, not the other way around.
As far as spirits go, there is no evidence of such.
its more remarkable than that, think of what those numbers represent.
i never said we produced what caused us.
We are but a single spec in the ever expanding universe, what is to say that there are not other places where life exists, we can't deny the possibility, we are too ignorant.
But how does something come from nothing? How does anything at all exist? Before humans, dinosaurs, plants, planets, solar systems, stars, asteroids. How does something materialize from nothing? Where does time begin? How? We can't really answer these things with conviction. Perhaps a believer is just as ignorant as a non-believer if not for the simple fact that we cannot answer with the conviction of logic the existence of god. And the conviction of faith is seemingly empty in such matters, all the faith in the world cannot will something into fact and everyone's religion can't be the one and only. We should be open to the possibility of the existence of a god, and the possibility that there is no god or afterlife, we really don't know until we die, and then even still we may not know.
--Jon (Agnostic)
You ask a very important question- how does anything exist at all -which must also be applied to God as well.
If complexity requires a designer, then wouldn't the designer also have to be complex thus require a designer himself?
Indeed I do accept the possibility that God exists, but as of now there is no evidence or logical argument which supports this thesis.
Absolutely I apply that question to God as well, and it never fails to baffle me. Either way life is just mind blowing.
--Jon
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